2.8 gr. In her off time, Regina writes for many publications in both print and digital mediums, trains other shooters, and mentors several up-and-coming female competitors in the precision rifle discipline. I just loaded 1000 124 grain plated bullets with 4.2 grains of Titegroup. First reloading experience was disappointing until I learned the process and started making very consistent ammo. Unlike pistol powders of the past, powder position in large cases (45 Colt, 357 Magnum and others) has virtually no effect on velocity and performance. I really enjoy the community as well as the sport. I have load some test rounds (not shot yet) and used the data from Hodgon website. containers. They're mostly for use in an M11/9 submachinegun but they work fine in a S&W Shield also. Phillip is also well known as a nationally ranked precision rifle competitor in the Precision Rifle Series and National Rifle League circuits. Shes also the co-director of her local club, the AZ LRPRS, assisting in facilitating monthly matches throughout the year. He took his first turkey and mule deer at age 6 and his first bull elk at age 9. LRN Manufacturer Hodgdon Powder Titegroup Bullet Diameter .356" C.O.L. I looked at 9mm load data for 115, 124, 147gr and the range for Titegroup is, well, tight. After graduating college, Ryan moved to Tulsa, OK to take a position as a plastics engineer and in 2011 began shooting 3-Gun competitively. I am using CBI pistol powder. The snubnosed .38 and .45 ACP handloads also turned in good results. No Charges? Me thinks not, but I could be wrong. In addition to shooting, Zach plays plays baseball, basketball, football, and track & field. Buy Sport Pistol or N320 instead. Hailing from the Kansas City-area, Jaclyn is a rifle shooter specializing in precision rifle shooting. Lee, Lyman, Hodgdon, Hornady, all sorts of manuals have data. I ended up finding data for it on the instructions for the powder measure. A licensed Montana Professional Outfitter and Guide freelance writer, his articles and photographs have been featured in magazines including Outdoor Life, American Hunter, American Rifleman, Field and Stream. You will get better accuracy and much better function with a mid-burn rate powder such as Unique, Universal, AA#5, or Power Pistol. JavaScript is disabled. Special Order 9MM (.356) 38/.357 (.358) 125 Gr Round Nose; 147 Gr Round Nose; 158 Gr Semi Wad Cutter; . I saw that there, Rusty, but I need data for FMJ, not HP. looking4reloadingdeals Both are off according to the newer data I am not afraid to pull them apart and use data that I can easily find and a powder that has more bullets listed for it. The bullets I have available are 124gr/125gr plated and jacketed and 147gr plated. First for 9mm and now for 45ACP. I load 115gr Berry's plated at 1.125" with 4.5gr of Titegroup. No issues there. He harvested his first turkey and whitetail deer at age 5 and completed his turkey grand slam by age 11. ABOUT WALKER: Walker is 15 years old and has hunted from Africa to Hawaii, and several places in between, including the Yukon in Canada. Hmmm, I use the .40 cavity and get pretty consistent 4.5gn drops with Titegroup. Starting load is 4.5gr for 1135fps. Max charge was 4.8 grains, so these should be fine. I used 4.5 grains of Titegroup with a 115 grain Berry's FMJ bullet and an OAL of 1.125 to 1.130. Titegroup's unique design provides flawless ignition with all types of primers, including lead-free versions. FYI, when you think about it..even the amount of crimp can/will/could affect things. You need to get teh double disc kit. COAL are generally +/- 0.005" seated using Lee seating die. With Hornady and Precision Delta 115gr FMJ best accuracy from my CZ75s is with 4.2-4.3 gr TG (~1100fps) Boris_La Posts: 85 Join date . I thought one was supposed to be at least 10 feet away from the chronograph when measuring velocity. Todd is a competitive shooter and firearms instructor. 1.100" Starting Load Grains 3.9 For 9mm, with Sierra 115 fmj, 4.8gr of Titegroup. Your previous content has been restored. After looking at my previous set ups, the chrono was likely at about 7 feet, not 5. She has a passion to introduce the shooting sports and showcase gun owners and the 2nd Amendment in a positive light. Maximum loads from Sierra: 115 gn bullets: Titegroup - 3.6 gn - 1100 fps. Velocities taken at ~4-5 feet from barrel. When we say same bullet, same case, same primer, what we mean is each case/bullet/primer is weighed . It will damage a blood vessel the smaller projectile barely misses. I wonder why the difference. She has been named as a co-host on Shooting Gallery on the Outdoor Channel. I shot a lot of Sta-Ball 6.5 and it worked well beyond expectations. In 2016, Phillip was nominated for Scout Sniper Instructor of the Year for his meticulous instruction that resulted in institutional changes in the training of Marine Scout Snipers in both formal schools and unit level training. This is a flattened spherical powder. Reloading is a personal responsibility and you must start low and work up and NEVER ASSUME. She has since entered the Open division and has competed all over the country at numerous national level events, including the PRS Finale in 2018. I like using this gun because I've heard HK tests it at 2x max pressure specs for the 9mm. MM thanks for that comment on the adjustable charge bar. He play trumpet in the Junior High Band and I am an honor roll student at St. Pats. There aint nothin like the smell of burnt gunpowder in the mornin. ABOUT CHAD: Chad is a world champion elk caller and two-time Eastern US Elk Calling Champion. As long as they cycle fine in your guns, you should be good to go. I shoot X-treme plated at 4.1 grains. Its no wonder so many people love this powder for their economical loads, its cheap AND accurate. Unique - 5.7 gn - 1250 fps. For over 25 years, he has worked in the firearms industry in product development, working and consulting with small arms manufacturing and related products. From their home in Montana, Shoot Straight with Chad & Marsha follows Chad, Marsha and their two boys-Walker and Wyatt-across the world in hunting adventures. Better like this than some of the disasters I've seen where someone basically takes a wild guess at something. Upgrade efforts paused for now. All of them are asking their parents for shotshell presses now. He volunteers as an alter sever at Mass on Sunday at church and is a member in the Civilian Airpatrol Program. Unique - 4.6 gn - 1100 fps. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DSbEZeGeToe2YIoHyMXMjO9Oyp_dvQEM7VJ3tqfdwg0/edit?usp=sharing. This is safe, yes? PF is between 130-135 depending on gun. Titegroup's unique design provides flawless ignition with all types of primers, including lead-free versions. A top quality jacketed bullet is a top quality jacketed bullet. I use 4.5 gns with Federal primers loaded to an OAL of 1.130. She has also competed for the USA in two Pan-American Shotgun matches and the 2015 IPSC World Shotgun Ladies team that brought home gold! Why? I'll be firing it through either the Glock 19 or 43. Zach started attending national shoots in 2018, including Junior Worlds, Junior Olympics Nationals, and USAYESS Nationals. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. A forum community dedicated to Glock firearm owners and enthusiasts. Clear editor. Brian now competes in both the PRS and NRL Pro series. Nam Vet, TiteGroup burns too fast for 9mm. SUBSCRIBE TO OUR NEWSLETTER TO STAY UP ON THE LATEST. The largest difference was just over 1fps over a 10 shot average. There have been some top 10 ELR finishes as well but I dont remember the specifics. 3 grains? Dianna has been highlighted by the NRA in American Warrior, the Washington Post and NRA Women. My goal was to find a load that worked well is all my 9MMs with differing barrel lengths, rifling, etc. Again, plated & FMJ are NOT the same, close but not the same. His proven expertise in firearm manipulation and shooting techniques has enhanced the skills of countless individuals and agencies. 124g berrys over 3.9g of titegroup 1.149 OAL. Only time I used TG in 9mm it was 4.5grs. Test gun is a HK P30L, which has about a 4.75" barrel. When I first learned it was long before Algore had invented the net. Every match Ive been to that chronic has the chrono set up at least 10 ft away. Save Share. I have looked at the factroy specs but I was looking for some input on loads that others use. Hodgton indicates you can go to 4.1. Believe me, I'm not TRYING to stretch or bend any rules. http://www.handloads.com/loaddata/default.asp?Caliber=9%20mm&Weight=115&type=Handgun&Order=Powder&Source, http://www.handloads.com/loaddata/dm&Weight=115&type=Handgun&Order=Powder&Source, http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=566352. For a newb, you are treading on very thin ice & IMO, haven't enough exp to determine if your load is "fine". Does it make a difference? I can't seem to find the load data for 115gr FMJ w/Titegroup powder online or in the Lyman 49th manual. This is a capture from the Sierra load data with Titegroup starting at 1000fps. Unlike pistol powders of the past, powder position in large cases (45 Colt, 357 Magnum and others) has virtually no effect on velocity and performance. A forum community dedicated to Carolina firearm owners and enthusiasts. I remember seeing something similar here long time back. Hell they even have chrono`s that mount right on the barrels of rifles these days. After this I would consider most all of the load data above close enough to start load development with. In Brians first full season, he achieved several top ten finishes, two regional match wins, and a 20thplace overall finish in the National Rifle League. Ryan has volunteered for HAVA and Freedom Hunters events getting wounded vets into competition and/or hunting. Anything between 3.6 and 4.0 should work fine. If I don't like it, I will give it to my buddy After working up a lighter load for my daughter I ended up with 124 grain plated bullet and 4.4 grains of Titegroup. It's great for light target loads in revolvers but generates way too much pressure for mid-range loads or pistol loads Some powders that work much better are Power Pistol, BE86, or even the old standby . If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Keyboards and steering wheels bring out the absolute worst in people. Feb 27, 2020. As the name implies, this spherical propellant was designed for accuracy. As a rule though, i try to keep it at the distance specified by the chrono brands i`m using. Ryan still has a passion for hunting, but 3-gun gives Ryan and wife Dianna the opportunity to travel together and compete with and against amazing people. These loads were tested using my Caldwell Ballistic Precision Chronograph Premium Kit. I want to be safe. Titegroups unique design provides flawless ignition with all types of primers, including lead-free versions. If you enjoy the forum please consider supporting it by signing up for aNES Membership The benefits pay for the membership many times over. I use 115 gr xtreme bullets mainly with titegroup but made up some loads recently with hp38/231. I've had no issues in sever thousand loads, other than having to adjust COAL a few thousandths one way or the other. After this I would consider most all of the load data above close enough to start load development with. A consistent shooter, Regina has finished in the Top 20 routinely and in the Top 10 quite frequently in both the National Rifle League and Precision Rifle Series. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. I am using TiteGroup for 9mm, but I`m loading 124 gr. I am also using the Xtreme bullets. Currently Jake has over 65 top three podium finishes in the last four years, another record! I have been putting together some load data for some of the loads I use commonly. Some flake powders have a wider range and they need it because they meter poorly. Nov 7, 2015. I think someone posted that very information just yesterday. You can post now and register later. For 231 I used 4.3 gr @ 1.130" OAL. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. It's the cheapest and most available powder for 9mm in my area. WARNING: This product contains chemicals known to the State of California to cause cancer and birth defects or other reproductive harm. You are using an out of date browser. Precision is making and looks forward to the future of creating the best professional custom rifles on the market. I sold off all except Titegroup. Titegroup has it all - low charge weight, burns clean, mild muzzle report and superb, uniform ballistics. He was trained as an armorer in the US Army, where he spent six years as a Military Police Investigator. Former lead pilot of the Blue Angels John Foley has reached been in contact along with Remington Mcbee and several others. I have some Titegroup I am planning on using in 9mm. Unique. In the last several years I have really focussed on the PRS, ELR, and NRL Hunter. I got the Titegroup on a recommendation. In 2016, she plans to lead a delegate of women to Capitol Hill in an effort to give legislators a face to put with gun owners. The loads highlighted in yellow are those that I found work best for me. Obligatory start low and work your way up I looked at 9mm load data for 115, 124, 147gr and the range for Titegroup is, well, tight. Used Titegroup and a variety of different weight and mfg bullets. and 8 lb. Come join the discussion about optics, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, training, shows, accessories, classifieds, and more! Titegroup: 0.356" 1.100" 3 . Speer says 4.5gr is max, Lyman say 4.5gr is max w/ 115gr bullets, so I am having a diff time digesting your data. Powder is generally +/- 0.1 gr as it dropped using a Hornady powder drop on my Dillon xl650(although usually right at the listed charge). After serving his country, George spent 20 years serving his community as a police officer. behind a 115gr. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. Titegroup 3.4grs 968 FPS G34 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 668 Scottsdale, AZ Posted January 28, 2018 Notes 2: 3.5grs Tite Group Distance to Chrono (FT): 5.00 Ballistic Coefficient: 0.212 Bullet Weight (gr): 147.00 Temp: N/A F BP: N/A inHg Altitude: 0.00 # FPS FT-LBS PF 10 957 298.99 140.68 9 947 292.77 139.21 8 959 300.24 140.97 RCBS 9mm-125-RN-GC 123 TiteGroup 4.4 1045 129 . It also burns hot, runs hot in your gun. I tried to make it "view only", if for some reason it does not come across that way please don't edit the document and let me know so I can adjust it. plated or jacketed bullet at 1150 fps minimum came closest to the ideal load. WARNING: If you are a newer reloader, you do not want to start out using this powder. I am using 115 gr jacketed bullets with Titegroup powder. Zach, a resident of McCook, Nebraska, started shooting trap and hunting when he was 10. I always set up my chrono at 10ft from the muzzle. Gaige Grosskreutz -- The Felon Shot By Kyle Rittenhouse. Sign up to get updates and access to exclusive promotions. was 1146fps. Titegroup I use 4 gr @ 1.130". Second Media Corp., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. This powder is very popular. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. She remains the only female to take home overall wins in national level precision rifle competitions when she won the 2016 NorCal Tactical Bolt Rifle Challenge and 2018 K&M Kahles Precision Rifle Competition. Working and enjoying the outdoors were just a normal part of day to day life. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by jell-dog, Mar 14, 2017. Phillip Velayo currently serves as Gunwerks Long Range University Lead Instructor. After looking at my previous set ups, the chrono was likely at about 7 feet, not 5. My question is how much would you load into a 158gr bullet. Both Plated round nose and JHP. I consider the type of bullet. My guess is 900 FPS jacketed load is getting close to not being able to guarantee the bullet always leaving the barrel, where a 1000 FPS load is more certain. Although her family hobby was horse shows and barrel racing, her father introduced her to USPSA in high school. I use the Caldwell chrono and it statesthat the unit must be 10-15 ft from the muzzle for the reading. Later, he started a granite countertop business allows him the time to pursue his passion for long-range shooting and high-country public land mule deer and elk hunting. Varget and H-4350 are the go to but since Ive been running some IMR Enduron powders that seem to work very good as well. Can't keep enough at the house. I`m using 3.8 gr for the plated, and 4.2 gr for the JHP. I have found it to be very accurate, and prefer it over my power pistol loads. Started at 3.8 but it would not cycle my guns correctly so had to up it. 1 - 4 of 4 Posts. Shellholders: Lee #19 Warning! I have been trying to get a 9mm 124gr RN load to reach 1200fps. Starting Load Grains 4.9 Velocity (ft/s) 1,124 Pressure 28,800 PSI Maximum Load Grains 5.4 Velocity (ft/s) 1,209 Pressure 33,800 PSI Barrel Length: 4" Case: Winchester Primer: CCI 500, Small Pistol Trim Length: .750" Twist: 1:10" 115 GR. We recommend that you use published lead load data from reputable sources. (3.2-3.6g from the Hodgdon website). Diannas also won the 2015 NRA World Shooting Championship Ladies title. Upload or insert images from URL. 4 hours ago, looking4reloadingdeals said: 6 hours ago, looking4reloadingdeals said: I use the Caldwell chrono and it statesthat the unit must be 10-15 ft from the muzzle for the reading. What's the difference between the Berry's plated bullets and FMJ? I am gonna give it a try. and 8 lb. This powder, like other very fast pistol powders, are not good for higher velocity ammunition and really only good for budget shooting ammo, competitions, or standard pressure ammo. What we load doesn't mean it will be safe for you. The gun to be used is a Sig M11-A1 9mm, 4" barrel, standard recoil spring. That's why when I figured out that my previous loads were unsafe I called Berry's to get correct info. Growing up on a secluded farm in rural southeast Kansas, Ryan spent the greater part of his childhood in the woods, plinking and hunting. I'm a self confessed TG whore but 4.5 is a little warm for my liking I stay at the 4.3 range for a 115g FMJ. In just five years, he has earned an impressive shooting resume with consistent top finishes at national level events. I'm thinken a 124 cast over 4.0 of titegroup has anyone tried that. All calculations were done by hand using formulas, please let me know if anything seems off. Posted by David Blankenship on Aug 12th 2022. When we are sold out, we are sold out. With velocities at 1046 to 1119. Sponsored by many of the hunting industries leading manufacturers, he has conducted over a thousand hunting and fishing seminars across the United States and has hunted and fished extensively around the world. with 125 Gr Blue Bullets. Sowhat about Titegroup and what do some cases look like? One is hard pressed to find a nicer person. Unlike pistol powders of the past, powder position in large cases (45 Colt, 357 Magnum and others) has virtually no effect on velocity and performance. Brian moved back to Idaho, where he completed his bachelors degree in Business Finance at Albertsons College of Idaho. I have been all over the internet looking for a good, sound load for my 9mm. This is a new powder to me and I understand that it is a fast burn powder. As the name implies, this spherical propellant was designed for accuracy. So you are saying you found data specificly for Berry's plated & TG? He is also the past Editor of Blackpowder Guns and Hunting Magazine. You are using an out of date browser which is likely incompatible with our website. Works good in everything from my 1911 to Glock YMMV. OAL is about 1.139 give or take. Went out and tested 4 more loads today (2 of the same load) and got extremely similar results. Many of these are 131-135 PF, which are plausible competition loads. Its makes your gun a somewhat heat machine. December 31, 2019 in 9mm/38 Caliber. A lot of this powder fits in a case, over 10 grains, easily. On 1/7/2020 at 8:30 PM, looking4reloadingdeals said. Appreciate the input. I am now loading 4.1 grains TG with OAL of 1.135 to 1.140 inches. She recently took on the role of Southwest Regional Director for the Precision Rifle Series. Just In the 2019 season, he will compete in twelve two-day national matches and 15 regional matches across the country, totaling 4,170 precision hand-loaded match rounds burning roughly 131,355 grains (18.75 pounds) of Varget in matches alone. 9mm Luger / 9mm Parabellum Ball-Type Handloads. If you don't mind my asking, where did your recipe come from? With my setup using the .32 orifice I get 3.5-3.6gr, .34 orifice 3.6-3.8gr and with the .37 orifice 4.1-4.2gr is dispensed. Chad is also the Director of Advertising & Media Relations for CVA Muzzleloaders, PowerBelt Bullets, Bergara USA, DuraSight Rings and Bases, Quake Industries and Konus Optics. Thanks for your patience. Shooting steel plates or need to shoot fast? As the name implies, this spherical propellant was designed for accuracy. Wish i could find it again. I use titegroup for 9mm using the Lee charge disk on my turret press. 6 grains? A lead bullet is a lead bullet as long as were talking a medium hardness. Zach has several friends that are getting into reloading shotshells because of Zachs reloads. It's for practice, not for competition. They are snappy, but fun to shoot. RN for about 10 years with excellent results in my Glocks and STI pistols. Boris_La . http://data.hodgdon.com/cartridge_load.asp, https://fsreloading.com/lee-precision-perfect-powder-measure-90058.html, Firearms News and Firearms related political news. In my time I have worked on improving myself to take it as high as I can. He also placed second in the World Elk Calling competition. I use Titegroup in my sig p320. This link will be updated as I continue to develop more loads and test them. As it says on bottle, a little goes a long way.. I have spent a lot of time perusing through the 9mm Reloading section and it seems that most folks who are using 124gr FMJ & JHP bullets with Titegroup are loading their cases with 4.0gr to 4.2gr of powder. Unlike pistol powders of the past, powder position in large cases (45 Colt, 357 Magnum and others) has virtually no effect on velocity and performance. We place limited powder inventory for sale on a regular basis on our website. Except that is going to be huge high pressure and very dangerous. Through shooting, Zach has met many people in the shooting community. Although The High Road has attempted to provide accurate information on the forum, The High Road assumes no responsibility for the accuracy of the information. In addition, she is also an outdoor writer and photographer, as well as a national seminar speaker. Makes an impression on you. Her assignments included Patrol, Street Crimes, Narcotics, and Gangs. Doubling that will come close to including practice rounds spent at his one-of-a-kind shooting range he built on the edge of the Snake River Canyon. Load at your own risk. I used 4.5 grains of Titegroup with a 115 grain Berry's FMJ bullet and an OAL of 1.125 to 1.130. Starting at mid range up to max. The 9mm Makarov and 9mm Luger velocities of 1,000 fps and 1,100 fps respectively were quite respectable, especially in the short-barreled SIG SAUER P365. Do not load above recommended manufacturer book maximums. For very low charge weights the opening is not big enough to constantly fill the volume resulting in very erratic metering. Cowboy Action, Bullseye and Combat Shooters should love this one! I am really enjoying reloading 45 ACP on my Lee classic loader. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Dianna Muller earned a Bachelor of Science in Criminal Justice/Psychology from University of Central Missouri and retired from the Tulsa Police Department after 22 years of service. Cowboy Action, Bullseye and Combat Shooters should love this one! My brother gave me some Titegroup. I have shot benchrest, F-Class, PRS, ELR, NRL hunter, and field matches. 125 gn bullets: Titegroup - 3.8 gn - 1100 fps. This year my NRL Hunter has been with H-1000 and its incredible! The game hooked me, but I fell in love with the people! Since returning to competition on 2009, Dianna has earned a plethora of High Lady wins, including the 2013 and 2016 USPSA Ladies Open National Championship. Lee made a micro charge disc that may help with small loads. I don't pay so much attention to the bullet manufacturer when loading. He has over 35 years experience in shooting, with approximately 50 tons of projectiles downrange with the assistance of Hodgdon Powder. So it is interesting that the starting 124gr load did not show a load for 900fps. We recommend upgrading your current browser or. Don't ask me why the maximum charge for Titegroup is higher with the 125 gn bullets. And by comparison the Lyman 49th shows titegroup at 4.0gr to 4.5gr max for the same Hornady XTP bullet. I use 3.5g Titegroup under a 147g JHP. HP and RN load data are practically interchangeable since you should be working up from the minimum anyways. I haven't shot any yet but it would be disappointing if I had to pull 150 bullets. 10-12 ft according to my chronos instructions inorder to prevent getting false readings due to the muzzle blast. JavaScript is disabled. All information is provided "as is" with all faults without warranty of any kind, either express or implied. Max charge was 4.8 grains, so these should be fine. Hodgdon on line data is a good place to look. In 1999, George opened GA Precision after apprenticing with three gunsmiths. /wp-content/uploads/2016/08/HODGDON_LOGO_DARK.png, https://hodgdon.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/titegroup_1_lb.jpg. Jake travels the country shooting, directing precision rifle matches, and teaching precision rifle classes. At first I was a little leery when I could not find the exact bullet I wanted to use with the powder I was using. So filling up half way looks normal. No part of the landscape, from pop cans to squirrels, was immune to a 10 round burst from a Ruger. TiteGroup is too fast burning to be a good universal powder. Titegroup's unique design provides flawless ignition with all types of primers, including lead-free versions. After taking up competitive shooting in 2016, she, won the Precision Rifle Series Production division in 2017 with her Savage Stealth. Maybe Ill do another test with the chrono 10ft away and see if I get any difference in results, thanks. Today, it is a popular military and law enforcement handgun cartridge. I found anything much lower to be too weak. You say that now. Titegroup This is a flattened spherical powder. Your link has been automatically embedded. Sorry for posting so many times in a row but I just got some new information. I use tight group for 9mm. I have the Hornady manual, but nothing about Titegroup in the manual for 9mm. The Lee second edition manual shows 115gr jacketed has 4.8gr max at 1.125 oal for 1158fps. To help get you started with load data we have collected information from what we consider to be a reliable source for easy reference. I havent had a problem yet. I have loaded 38 spl with 5.4 grains with a 125g bullet. The google sheet has been updated for those interested in the difference or who want to reference the sheet. Soon I got a lot more comfortable as I did it a lot. I have seen anything from 3.7-4.4 grains recommended. A forum community dedicated to all 1911 firearm owners and enthusiasts. Titegroups unique design provides flawless ignition with all types of primers, including lead-free versions. We do not take backorders and our Tech Services team cannot take orders via email or phone. This is an older thread, you may not receive a response, and could be reviving an old . That is all the negatives about it, it shoots just fine, its very economical and its just fine with accuracy. He is a four-time World Champion, 13-time National Champion, the only Triple Crown winner in Action Shooting Sports and has 600+ (and counting) local and regional shooting competitions.
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